• Bharath

    Give it some more days and all Nova Apex Go theme will also be raining……
    oh yeah and espier launcher finally got something to update to….. lol….

  • Metallinatus

    Don’t forget that a lot of users are probably not gonna upgrade to the new look of iOS 7…
    Last year a lot of people already waited for Google to release their Maps on the App Store before they upgrade to iOS 6, but this time no app is gonna save the users from iOS 7’s new UI….

  • http://people.ign.com/spillner82 Spillner82

    I have been saying this for a while now. Apple creates there own fragmentation. There is no reason why phones like the iPhone 4 can’t have Siri or the 4S can’t have Airdrop. Even Samsung has begun updating their GS3 with GS4 features.

    • Karlo

      Samsung acts like Apple now.
      You dont have SVoice on GS2(Android 4.1.2) and i can guess that GS3(Android 4.2.2) will not have those features like GS4(to someone its gimmick features).

    • RarestName

      Actually, Siri lags horribly on the iPhone 4 even when disabled. I’ve tried installing Spire before. On the other hand, the AirDrop fragmentation issue is total BS from Apple. I’ve used AirBlue Sharing before and it works flawlessly.

  • TheBeeNet

    Interestingly enough during the WWDC conference Apple made various jabs towards Android about fragmentation. Sort of hypocritical to me. Great article Armando.

  • http://www.facebook.com/datkidfromawendaw Clay Johnson

    I can’t lie, it looks pretty good on that…S4? or S3?

  • We_only_come_out_at_night

    It’s funny how Armando always say “Im not an Apple hater” but everything he says is showing completely different story…

    First of all, feature “fragmentation” is not a problem at all. Not for users and not for developers. Of course for users it may be a bit annoying to be left out but I think it’s logical to assume that older iPhones may not be powerful enough (or hardware equiped) and that Apple wants to have some selling points for the iphone 5. But for developers… This “fragmentation” doesn’t affect their work process in any way at all.

    The only group of people who sees this “fragmentation” as a problem is Android fanatics who choose to ignore how huge and REAL the fragmentation is on their platform.
    The contrast between new iOS interface style and design of older iOS apps is another thing. This would be a valid point if the situation didin’t exist on Android. Which does exist and on the whole different level of BAD.
    Huge portion of Android users still ar using the awfull looking 2.x and Play Store has a lot of Holo apps..
    And as for the iOS7 imitation on Android…. It’s the same thing as trying to imitate OSX interface on Windows – you’re just fooling yourself.

    • Explorer

      It’s impossible to remain neutral after using android for so long … it’s just better. Face it.

      • We_only_come_out_at_night

        Android is not better. It may be better for certain people. For others iOS is better. Both have strengths and weaknesses but neither one is better for everyone. When you say “android is so much better” you actually should say “so much better for ME”
        And by the way, I think you would agree that having ALMOST all new features (of the new OS) is certainly better then having no new OS and no new features at all…
        And yes, i’m an iPhone user but unlike many commenters here I don’t hate Google or Android. Go ahead call me an iSheep for trying to be neutral.

        • Asgard

          You sound more neutral in the reply than in your original comment. But I agree with you about that there is no perfect OS, I even recommended the iPhone for my girlfriend even though I use and love android, because I knew it would be better for the things she wanted out of it.

        • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

          There is a lot of devices that don’t get updated… Mostly cheap and older phones… Flagships for the most part get updates, and when we do get them updates, we get everything… It’s a real update with all the bells and whistles… I have a 3GS, and a GS2… My GS2 is running 4.1.2 JB, the 3GS iOS6… Which one do you think has all the bells and whistles?… And I’m very sure I’ll won’t be getting iOS7…

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            Galaxy S2 was released in 2011. 3GS – in 2009…
            You should compare 3gs with the Galaxy S. So would you like to tell me how Galaxy S is running the latest Android?

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            You’re missing the point… My 3GS says it’s running the latest version of iOS… But it’s really not… The only thing that updated really is the version number… So its in the same exact position as the GS1… All I have from iOS6 is facebook and twitter integration… The GS1 was able to do that back when the 3GS came out… iOS couldn’t do that until iOS6… I can compare my GS2 running JB to the 4S running iOS7 and my phone still got all the bells and whistles from JB, but the 4S won’t have all the bells and whistles from iOS7…

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            Comparing 3gs running iOS 6 with GS1 is just ridicilous. GS1 is running Android 2.x
            And just because iOS 6 looks the same as any older iOS version, doesn’t mean that nothing has bean changed. I see that Android fans tend to deny Android fragmentation problem by focusing on “iPhone didin’t get all the features”. That doesn’t change the fact that iPhones get software updates much much longer.
            80 % percent features of new iOS is MUCH better than 0 %. And it seems that Android fans are trying to argue otherwise.

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            I don’t deny Android fragmentation… But lets face it… changing the version number and adding two features is not a update… I’m almost sure the software enhancements that we can’t see is not being added to the 3GS… So basically they’re just changing the version number…The older devices ain’t get the full support… Really no different vs Android!!! And what about my GS2 vs the 4S argument? GS2 came out right before the 4S both have had or is getting 3 full updates… I got 100% of it on the GS2, while the younger 4S got 80%…

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            With every new iOS update there are usually new user features and A LOT of changes “under the hood”. And these changes “under the hood” come to all iPhones. That’s why you can take the 3GS and install newest apps which utilise newests API’s on it.
            So your claim that they are not changing anything besides version number is just absurd.

            As for the GS2, great for you. Still doesn’t change the fact that A LOT of Android phones not only still use old version OS but most of the times are SHIPPING with already old OS.

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            So their adding support for new API’s… WOW so much stuff is being added “under the hood”… These things are a giving… still only getting about 10% of their effort… Apple makes their money on selling their products… They’re not selling the 3GS anymore, why put any more effort into a device no longer making you anymore money, besides app sales, the reason for them to adding the support for new API’s…all the software enhancements are not being added to the 3GS… Version number two features that should be one; and API support… Still no better than what the G1 is getting…

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            It’s getting less and less interesting to discuss something with someone who will just deny everything you say.

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            I know, I’m having that problem with you…

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            Lets get down to the nitty gritty… iOS is optimized to work with the hardware, right? The 3GS, and iP5 have different specs, right? So iOS4 was released with the 3GS, right? So
            iOS 4 is optimized for the 3GS, and iOS6 is optimized for the iP5… It makes more sense to use iOS4, and implement some of iOS6’s features, than to optimized iOS6 to work with all the different hardware…

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            Optimising sofware for a certain device is exactly what Apple was and is doing.
            Leaving out certain features from 3gs IS optimising it. If the hardware is not as fast, you just remove something that would slow it down. So that’s why Apple can’t put ALL the features on the older iPhone.
            And unlike most Android phone manufacturers Apple actually tries to keep their devices up to date.
            Even if 3GS doesn’t have 100% of iOS6 features, it still can run almost all the apps from the AppStore. And that is more important.

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            You also got to understand the different businesses… Google makes their money off of software/apps but mostly ads… Lets say Samsung, Samsung makes their money off of hardware… Apple makes money on both sides, software and hardware… It makes for more sense for them to continue support of older devices, because they can still make money on app sales… Google wants to support older devices so they made the Android OS backwards compatible… Samsung supports only the older devices they still sell… Because they don’t make money off the software, it doesn’t make business sense to support devices you’re no longer making money on… Updates are something you buy into on Android… So if you buy a cheap $100 Samsung device, you are trying to spend the least amount of money as possible, so you get the least amount of support as possible if any… There is to many devices in Samsung case for them to support them all… So if you buy cheap, you get cheap treatment, If you’re being cheap buy not buying something newer by the time they stop selling your older device, than you also deserve the cheap treatment… Flagship devices that are still being sold, get updates…

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            So you are saying Samsung (and others) simply don’t care about users who have older models… And yet you try to argue that Android users have better support?

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            If that’s all you got from that, then
            you’re truly a fanboy… Apple stop supporting device after so long… The reason being, it’s no longer worth it, because the amount of user still using the device is no longer profitable… In Samsung’s case, they only make money off hardwarebeing sold, it is
            no longer profitable
            for them… It’s the same thing… Once a company stops making money off that particular
            device, they no longer support it… And why should they? If you’re not trying to give them anymore money, why should they give you any support? You’re trying to make it look like Apple cares about their older devices, they don’t! They only support them until their no longer making much money off of them… Don’t expect a fanboy to comprehend that scenario…

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            Well, iPad 2 is no longer sold but it will still get iOS7.
            By the time i got iOS6, iPhone 3GS also wasn’t sold anymore…
            And Im not even mentioning the fact that iOS devices has longest support in the whole market of mobile.
            Could you name at least one Android device (made in 2009) which is running latest Jelly Bean?
            Me neither. Case closed.

            PS. Personal insults already?

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            If you would stop bulldozing over everything I say, you would see my point… Apple makes their money on both hardware, And software… “BOTH” <— Being the point… Samsung only make money on "HARDWARE"! "ONLY THROUGH HARDWARE" <— Being the point… Apple still makes money on older devices their no longer selling through "SOFTWARE"… "SOFTWARE" <—- Being the only reason they support them… Once Samsung stops selling that device, they no longer make any money "THROUGH THE HARDWARE", <— Being the point… Apple does the same thing, when the users still using them older device are few… Both these companys are about making money, not supporting their users… Once they are no longer making, or making much money of their older devices, they both stop supporting them in any way… Also you insulted me the other day… After complementing you in are UI discussions, you then insulted me by telling me I have no idea what I'm talking about, so we should stop discussion it… So you can f*** off for all I care…

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            That’s true, Apple makes money from hardware products (Macs, iPads, iPhones etc.) and software (30 percent of every app sold in App Store; pro level application, OSX sales).

            And yes Samsung makes money just from hardware.

            But that doesn’t change the fact, that Apple has much longer support. And either way as a user I wouldn’t care about these reasons. The RESULT is what’s important.

            And I as I said, even old iDevices that are no longer sold, still get iOS updates.

            Also I did not insult you in any way. Observing ones lack of competence in a certain topic is not an insult. It is what it is – observation.

            PS. So will you name at least one Android device from 2009 which has latest Android?

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            I’ll put it this way… If Apple only made money from the hardware, like Samsung, After they stopped selling that model of iPhone. they would stop supporting it to… Can you at least agree with that?.. As far as Android phones that were sold in 2009, I can’t think of one model… Maybe the first EVO, and the G1. Officially “NO” their not supported by the OEM… The OEM’s are no longer selling them… Unofficially I believe the OG G1 has ROM support… This comes back to the point either way… If their not making money, they’re not going to support it… Apple would do the same if they were only making money on hardware… They don’t care for the users of the older devices no more than any of the other Android OEM’s… The Only reason they support them is because they still make money from the software… And I still believe my 3GS is not running true iOS6…

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            “If Apple only made money from the hardware, like Samsung, After they stopped selling that model of iPhone. they would stop supporting it to… Can you at least agree with that?..”

            That’s possible in that hypothetical situation. But what’s the point of this “what if”?
            Your reasons doesn’t make a left out Android user feel any better. When you don’t get an update it sucks and that’s it.
            And about “true ios6″. iPhone runs all the apps the require iOS6 so it means its not just iOS5 with a different number.

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            The “what If” works just fine… Apple making money off software is the only reason they continue to support older devices… You know I’m right about this, you just don’t want to admit it… It does suck not getting updates on some devices… But the good thing is, even if you’re behind in Android updates, you’re not behind any other OS’s capabilities… You could be running iOS7 on your iP5, or BB10 on your Z10, or WP8 on your lumia 920… And their ain’t nothing you can say to someone running 2.3 GB can you do this, and them not being able to do the same… Lets face it, the only reason you like getting these updates, is for the features… Features Android already has… Android is the most flexible OS’s out their…

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            I will repeat:
            User doesn’t care about these reasons. This song “Samsung makes money from hardware” DOES NOT make a user feel any better if his phone is left out from new OS.

            And I already said: MAYBE you are right. If Apple made money only from hardware, perhaps their support will be terrible as Android’s, but Apple is not “just hardware company” so who cares? Why are you talking about his hypothetical world? What’s the point?

            And you comparing Android 2.3 with newest software just shows how uninformed and hateful towards everything that hasn’t green robot in it…

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            Who has a iPhone and a Android, and who has just a iPhone? I start this conversion trying to give you some information you might not have realized or thought of… So you can better understand the two very different situation at hand… All of these companies have one thing in common… And thats to make money… And once they can no longer make money off of you, they ditch you like a bad habit… It doesn’t matter what the logo is… And as far as the 2.3 argument… It’s still a very capable OS… It has it’s problems, but it’s capable… There is still many things it can do, that you still can’t do with a up to date OS… Be it iOS6/7, BB10 or WP8 on a 2.3 device… And instead of just saying I’m uninformed, please elaborate why I’m uniformed… Because otherwise you just look like you have no argument… How about you focus your next comment to me on why I’m uninformed because of my 2.3 argument…

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            Im well aware that Google, Apple and others are business companies that are making money.
            But I see that you are not really good at reading because I already told you two or three times that users don’t care about the reason behind poor support. And yet you still repeating yourself over and over and over again with the same thing.

            In my experience, all the people who like to say “there’s nothing iOS can do that Android can’t”, usually are not really aware of what features iOS actually has. They just assume that iOS that Android has all the features in the world.
            But the reality is, there are things that Android can do and iOS can’t but there are also things that Android can’t do but iOS can.
            Im not going to start listing all the features. Im just gonna name one thing that makes your assumptions sound a bit dumb.
            desktop and mobile integration.
            Apple has it’s own successful desktop OS and the combination between OSX and iOS has things to offer that Google just can’t, because they don’t even have a real desktop OS. Even Windows works better with iOS than Android.
            And that’s just one thing and it already makes your assumption “Android can do everything iOS can” seem silly.
            Im not bashing Android. It really has some nice features that iOS does not have, but to say “iOS has nothing that Android has not” is just dumb.

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            You made the argument
            that you know 0 people that care about lanchers and icons, the same can be said about update… A lot of people don’t even understand what a update is, or what their getting from it…

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            I’m well where

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            Tell me some more features…

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            I’m saying there are things and even things iOS can’t do now, as far back as 2.3… Never said iOS didn’t have things Android can’t do…

          • Explorer

            Why is comparing iOS6 to Android 2.2 ridiculous? In the last few system updates Apple implemeted features that Android had since 2.2 (or even before).

            And second thing: you can always run latest Android on any device. Root it and flash new OS. But you’ll never be able to put latest iOS on 3GS for example.
            Android has pretty good official support, but unofficial is far beyond any other OS/company.
            If you want latest Android version, you can have it. If you want latest iOS, you have to buy new iPhone …

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            Ridiculous because up until 4.x Android was quite terrible. In my personal opinion Android caught up to iOS only with Jelly Bean. Android 2.x in my experience was nowhere near as good.
            By the way none of the manufacturers are telling customers to go root their phones to put a custom ROM on it. So officially, if you want a new Android, you buy a new phone, too.

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            Only as far as Smoothness goes… As far as my 3GS, if I don’t get iOS7, I’ll never get it… But if I had a G1, as long as developers support it I can get key lime and above…

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            I am not talking just about smoothness. I mean basic things too. For example, I had a Nexus 7 and I was blown away by the fact that it didn’t even have autocorrect for my native language. Which iOS had since iOS 3 (or 4).

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            It blows my mind that use didn’t have true multitasking, app integration, any kind of customization…

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            Actually I like the way multitasking now works on iOS.

            It’s made in way that user doesn’t need to think about it at all. It kill unneeded apps to save memory and battery but keeps running important ones. For example – location, VOIP… So I don’t know why would I need “true” multitasking… To truly waste resources?

          • 1206549

            Get another keyboard? The great thing about Android is whatever your system lacks, you can easily fix it. Out of curiosity, what’s your native language?

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            Yes, it’s good to be able to fix it.

            But the bad thing about Android, sometimes there are just too many things to fix…

            LT.

          • 1206549

            I don’t think there’s really a lot. If you want it to at least have the strengths of iOS that can be done in a few fixes. The problem isn’t that there are many things to fix, more like there’s a lot of things you can improve or upgrade that you want to do all of them when you find out about them. You start to get this compulsive desire to take your phone to the max that for some, it just becomes overwhelming. I guess that’s one of the true strengths of iOS, users don’t have to worry about improving because they’re pretty much stuck. I know that last sentence sounded like I was bashing them but honestly, when I lost my phone and had to went back to a dumb phone, I was kinda relieved that I don’t have to worry about customization beyond wallpapers anymore.

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            If you think that to have iOS’s strengths all you need is a few fixes, then you really don’t know what those strengths actually are.
            Also I think even on Android majority of people don’t care much about the customization either because most people treat their phone as just a tool in life. Nerdroids are opposite: for them the smartphone is THE life. And they are still a minority in this world.

          • 1206549

            Technically, any combination of problems can be done in one fix through custom ROMs as long as it exists. If there’s a ROM out there designed to put iOS’ strengths into Android then that’s just one fix.

            “Also I think even on Android majority of people don’t care much about the customization either because most people treat their phone as just a tool in life”

            I don’t know about you but majority of people I know running Android are very concerned about customization. And these are people who barely know anything about Android. I haven’t seen anyone who hasn’t used a live wallpaper, a launcher and an icon pack.

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            “Very concerned”? I call that BS.

            My girlfriend once had an Android Phone. I think it was Galaxy series phone. Guess how many times she asked me about changing launcher or icons… Not to mention a custom ROM… Yes she tried to put a live wallpaper and that’s it.

            Now she has an iPhone 4s. Guess how many times she asked me about launchers or icon packs…

            The answer in both cases is 0. My mother has an iPad. Guess how many times she wanted to change something in it (besides wallpaper). Zero, again.

            My good friend also had an Android and now he has iPhone 4. Guess how many times he wanted to drastically change something in it… Zero.

            I understand that teenagers care more about those silly icons and launchers. But teenagers are not majority of people.

          • 1206549

            You’ve got what, 3 people as an example? I’ve got my whole school. 8 out of every 10 students running Android have got GO Launcher or GO at least GO SMS. At least three of those have a custom ROM installed.

            I agree that teenagers are more concerned about this but I’ve found that half of the adults I know using Android have a different launcher and 1 in 3 have custom ROMs.

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            School. Exactly.

          • 1206549

            I’m in college and a lot of students here are adults. My data on adults was also taken from those outside my school.

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            Im pretty sure you study something technical. So it doesn’t surprise me that IT students like to play around with Android. But as I said before, this in no way a representation of actual majority of people.
            The knowledge (in IT) of an average person roughly equals to that of your girlfriend or mom.
            That may seem sad but that is actually true.
            Recently I saw an article which was about a research “how many Android users care about it being “open”?”
            The results were not surprising – less than 10 percent.
            Even the web usage market share suggest that A LOT of Android phone owners don’t use them as a smartphone but rather just a feature phone. And these statistics are consistent with quite low popularity of those launchers in the Playstore.

          • 1206549

            Yes, I’m an IT student but here’s the sad part. A lot of IT students here don’t have Android. There are only three of us. There are also very few of us. Students in marketing, nursing and education have a higher Android user percentage than those of us in IT. In fact, a few of my fellow IT students used to type at 9 words per minute (this is fixed now) because they don’t have much experience with computers. One of the reason they took IT was because it’s one of a few courses that a certain scholarship was offered.

          • Explorer

            Before ICS Android really was laggy and had some problems, but it had better functionality anyways.

            And forget “officially”. Officialy, Android and iOS are on pair. But nobody’s forcing you to keep everything official.

          • RarestName

            iOS updates are just more APIs and lesser UI features to the users :(

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            That’s kind of my point… The version on my 3GS may have changed, but it’s a really no different than the version it was running when it first came out… A couple features, and the necessary Api’s to run the apps… If you look at it, that’s all apple wants for the 3GS, app support…

        • http://twitter.com/theonlylolking theonlylolking

          Whatever iOS can do Android can do and more.

        • 1206549

          “Both have strengths and weaknesses”

          I don’t think this is exactly true because Android practically allows you to do anything. Any weakness you can find, there’s a fix for that out there. You’re only limited by your hardware and whether the fix is out there yet. But there’s not a single thing on iOS I can think of that can’t be done on Android. I’m not bashing iOS though (even though I like to make fun of it a lot). I still respect personal choice but I can’t see any part of iOS where Android falls short.

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            People don’t buy things to fix them. People want a product that meets as many needs as possible just out the box. In other words – as little fixing as possible.

            And besides, you cannot make Android something that it is not. Just because you can make Android look ALMOST like iOS or Windows Phone it REALLY doesn’t mean that it will work the same way. And i am guessing that when you say “there’s not a single thing on iOS I can think of that can’t be done on Android”, you actually just talking about surface… It’s the same thing with desktop Linux. Yes it’s very flexible and customisable but you will never make Windows or OSX from it.

          • 1206549

            “People don’t buy things to fix them”

            I never said that, did I? All I’m saying is any weakness can be overcome.

            “And besides, you cannot make Android something that it is not”

            I never said that you can. You can make it function like something different like iOS though.

            “you actually just talking about surface”

            Depends on how deep you mean by surface. Because if we’re talking about just the top layer, we’re talking launchers and icon packs which, Android customization can go deeper. What about custom ROMs and kernels? You can make it deep enough that a user will have no idea you’re running Android. Theoretically, if you’ve got the right hardware, you can even run iOS apps on it by emulating iOS.

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            “Theoretically, if you’ve got the right hardware, you can even run iOS apps on it by emulating iOS.”

            That’s very strong “theoretically” because i don’t think it’s very possible to bypass all the security levels in iOS to make it run on something that is not an iPhone.

            I said “people are not buying things to fix them” because your claims are based on the assumption that people would want to be fixing their phones by install custom ROMS and launchers.

          • 1206549

            “i don’t think it’s very possible to bypass all the security levels in iOS to make it run on something that is not an iPhone”

            It’s not the security you have to worry about. It’s the complexity and the legality and whether there’s someone with enough time on their hands to do it. We’re not talking about actually just porting iOS to a different device. You could make a different OS that would interpret apps the same way iOS would or you could make some kind of emulator that would make iOS think it’s running on an iPhone.

            “your claims are based on the assumption that people would want to be fixing their phones by install custom ROMS and launchers.”

            No, like you, my claim is based on the assumption that different users have different needs for their device. We just have different approaches.

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            That’s very very very unlikely that someone would succeed to create such emulator or OS. Yes legal issues would be one of the problems, but still the security would remain the obstacle no.1. Smart guys work for months just to make iOS run unsigned code. Let alone do things you mentioned.

            “No, like you, my claim is based on the assumption that different users have different needs for their device.”

            And yet you still don’t agree that different OS’es have different strengths and weaknesses for certain people.
            Because –ck logic?

          • 1206549

            “That’s very very very unlikely that someone would succeed to create such emulator or OS”

            I agree. A project like this would probably take a lot of time and since it’s practically got IP infringement for a name, that makes it harder. Apple would probably kill you if you do something like this or hire you into the company so the idea wouldn’t get out.

            ” yet you still don’t agree that different OS’es have different strengths and weaknesses for certain people”

            I never said I disagreed. I even admit that Android has weaknesses. All I’m saying is Android’s weaknesses can be overcome in a number of ways. I’m sure the same can be done on iOS but it’s usually a lot more difficult, against Apple’s terms or even illegal.

      • The tech dude

        If you’ve ever used both an iPhone 4 and a iPhone 5, you’ll see a huge difference in performance….

        • TheBeeNet

          I’ve used both and didn’t notice to much of a difference. What are the performance differences? Faster os?

  • As

    At WWDC they bragged about how how many percentage of users use the latest OS version… Yeah right. How many amongst them don’t get all the features or most of them?

  • The tech dude

    I think that the fact that google won’t let android devices below 4.0 get chrome is a big fragmentation problem for android! I mean, chrome is googles browser! And it should be on ALL android phones!!!

    • TheBeeNet

      It is what it is. I don’t know how you’re going to avoid fragmentation of some sort. Different devices different hardware different software. Some software may be even outdated. So on and so forth.

    • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

      The point of the article is, Apple and it’s fanboys always want to point fingers at Android for it, when iOS has the same problem… Can you think of any other app that people can’t get below 4.0 from Google?

    • 1206549

      Actually, this is just to point out the fact that iOS isn’t immune to it either. Apple fans make such a big deal about the fragmentation problem when it’s not that big of a problem especially because you can simply root your device and get a custom ROM.

      • We_only_come_out_at_night

        Rooting your phone to put a CUSTOM ROM (of a newer Android) is in itself a proof of the fragmentation problem.
        Because if that problem didin’t exist you wouldn’t need a custom rom in the first place.

        • Brandon Jiang

          iOS can’t even use custom ROMs

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            True, but who cares?

          • Brandon Jiang

            i have a few friends with 3GSs that would love to be able to run iOS 7, even with jb and a custom ROM. but unfortunately they can’t

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            3GS already has seen 4 different versions of iOS.
            AND it’s a phone from 2009 which currently runs the latest iOS. To expect more it would be just naive.
            Besides, i very much doubt that any Android phone from 2009 could run a custom ROM with latest Android… Let alone doing it well….
            So yeah… Really bad example my friend.

          • Brandon Jiang

            I’m going to try to control myself here.

            We are tech savvy. We actually know stuff about technology. However, people like my friends do not. They are just “regular” consumers, and thus, their opinions should actually be regarded as the more “normal” opinion as opposed to ours. And the normal is, “I don’t care about updates.” But iOS 7 is a big change. It actually made them interested.

            Once again, regular consumer: Best example

            OK NVM I CAN’t JUST BE CALM HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DARE TO CALL MY FRIENDS NAIVE JUST BECAUSE THEY DON’T KNOW TECH WELL? NAIVETÉ COMES FROM NOT UNDERSTANDING SOCIETY NOT TECHNOLOGY! IF YOU THINK BEING NAIVE IS BECAUSE ONE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND TECH THEN YOU SIR MUST GO GET A BREATH OF FRESH AIR! MANY OF THE PEOPLE I KNOW HAVE MENTAL DISABILITIES SO IT’S SO RUDIMENTARY THAT YOU WOULD INSULT SOMEONE WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING THEM YOURSELF.

            Seriously you need to realize that insults are extremely mean, and you cannot just throw them around in a debate. Stick to the fundamentals.
            But I’m not going to talk to someone who insults another JUST because they want a new operating system.

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            I didin’t refer to anybody in my comment so your question about your friends sounds silly to me.

            I am serious: 3gs is a 4 year old phone. So nobody is and nobody should complain about it not getting the iOS7. And Android users especially have no right to complain about this because they have it soooo much worse: an Android phone from 2009 with the latest OS version ? This doesn’t even exist. So, I think Android users should just shut up about fragmentation and software support.

          • Brandon Jiang

            Let me break it down:

            who cares?

            That is a question, directed at me, thus I am obliged to answer

            my friends

            This is my answer

            they’re naive

            what you think of them

            you’re rude to insult someone w/o even knowing them

            what i think of you

            for some reason 2009 is all I can think about

            what you continue to reiterate

            As for omg the 3GS has the latest version of iOS and it’s 4 years old no android device is in the same position well let me tell you something:

            the 3GS was WAY ahead of its time. the hardware was and still is extremely capable. whereas Android devices of 2009 were pretty shitty. 2010 was a different story, though

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            I didin’t even say a word about your friends because i was not talking about anyone in particular. Are you high?

          • Brandon Jiang

            why are you asking me if I was high? why are you throwing in insults completely unrelated? this is not debate, this is a fight. seriously, stop.

            let me quote you:
            “3GS already has seen 4 different versions of iOS.AND it’s a phone from 2009 which currently runs the latest iOS. To expect more it would be just naive”

            as my friends expect more, I guess it’s “naive” for them
            and don’t play innocent. it’s obvious what you were trying to imply. judging by your extremely rude attitude, I don’t think you actually know how to debate.
            come up with reasonable analytics. NOT “are you high? your friends are naive. im going to insult you instead of focus on what the subject is”

            didn’t you ever learn that people have feelings? I am hurt emotionally by your offensive attack against me

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            What sort of analytics are you expecting? Do you need proof that iPhone 3gs was introduced in 2009?

            Or do you need proof that there simply is not one Android phone from 2009 which is running latest official Android?

            And im not rude, it’s just you who chose to be offended by words which were not targeted at anyone personally.

          • Brandon Jiang

            I don’t get it. Why do you keep denying your owns words? “To expect more it would be just naive”
            People expect more. I guess you think they are naive.
            Then , for some reason, you think I’m high because I was offended. In this world, people have conflicting opinions and you will never know how your words will affect someone. When this happens, I say sorry I didn’t mean to offend you not, deny that I was trying to, because it doesn’t matter what your intnetions were, it’s what the outcome is. Want an example? Easy. I hit a kid by accident because oI wasn’t looking. Instead of being a douche, I say sorry, that was an accident.

            Likewise, I’m going to say “Chinese people are smelly assholes.” Was I targeting anyone personally? No. This doesn’t justify my words.

            I also said analytics, not statistics. Have you never formally debated? An analytic is when you analyze something yourself, not use evidence to convey a point.
            So once again, Android devices of 2009 were shitty.
            The 3GS was ahead of its time. Hence why it can continue to get updated. My analytics.

          • We_only_come_out_at_night

            I did not deny my words. I said what I said:

            iPhone 3GS is a 4 YEAR OLD phone which already has seen 4 different iOS versions. This alone is more than impressive.

            And although it’s now running the latest iOS, it runs a bit slow. No, it still does not lag, but when you launch an app, it takes much longer than it does on iPhone 5. So you don’t have to be tech savvy to understand that this an OLD phone.

            And if someone still seriously expects a 2009 phone to get 2013’s software update, maybe that person IS a bit naive. It this sentence offends you, maybe you are too sensitive.

            That was not analytics what you said. It’s just another observation. And you got it wrong, by the way.

            iPhone 3GS does not use custom CPU by Apple. iPhone 4 was the first to get one.

            Ant what this does even mean? :
            “The hardware was not open back then to other manufacturers at that time”

            Not open? What are talking about? Even in 2009 there were some really impressive smartphones in terms of hardware. What part of it was supposed to be “open” ?

          • Google_Is_The_Higgs_Boson

            I wouldn’t even bother with this guy… Check out the conversation I had with him below v v v v… Even when I made a good point, he shrug it off and made me repeat my self a couple times… denying everything anything I said…

  • Jeremy Decker

    How can you talk about Apple fragmentation???? Android fragmentation is way worse and bigger problem. Armando you have proven you are a true Google fanboy. Obviously Apple is making some of the new features only on the new devices for a reason. Its a business, get over it. Android on the other hand STILL has more users on gingerbread than Jellybean. That my friend is pathetic. Only 4% MAX on the newest version of jellybean as well??? Sounds like the fragmentation issue on android is WAY BIGGER of a problem than Apple ever was.

    • Ryan Behmanesh

      When talking about Android fragmentation, you need to only look at flagship android phones. Who cares if the low end phones have the latest version of Android? Those who buy those phones, probably don’t care (or know) what version of Android they are using anyway. These low end phones skew the percentages big time.

      Also, Google is trying to fix this problem with the Nexus/Google experience phones.

  • ryan

    Some blogs have reported iOS7 features a way for “flattening” the “old” icons. iOS 6 and older has a built in “glossifier” for apps that did not include it.