• Jacob Bishop

    Sounds just like the PC elitist. Jeez they are annoying.

    But yeah I totally agree with you. Does the HTC one not have NFC?

    • Jacob Bishop

      Oh and is the HTC ones camera better than the gnexus in your opinion? I’m looking to get the one as an upgrade to my gnexus.

      • MasterMuffin

        Not just in anyone’s opinion, but HTC One’s camera is superior to gnexus’ camera

      • http://people.ign.com/spillner82 Spillner82

        HTC Ones camera blows the GN away. Yes the One has NFC but the tap to pay is carrier disabled.

        • Jacob Bishop

          Thanks for both answers, whats to stop you from getting the apk and using it?

          • MasterMuffin

            The fact that it wouldn’t work and the camera wouldn’t become any better

  • thomas sim

    As long time Nexus supporter, my proud as Nexus user was the freedom. The ‘I_got_latest_Android_version’ was thing of past since Jelly Bean and no major update in Android version.

  • Yaron Rosen

    well, i still use the galaxy s2, and for a matter of fact i start to hate samsung cause they start to be stink, start from the locking they devices by area till their knox 0X1 bootload and kernel signature that made it impossible for rooting, and i did not even talk about that they cheat of their benchmark on their note3. these all for note. the experiece from samsung devices design and the ui is so bad & boring, although they have module phone with external sdcard & lte all the ui is pretty ugly but the most annoying thing is the lag and software update, these two things are bad, very bad . software update is important to me and should come fast! as fast that it can be. as far as htc idn cause i never used them, but google just meet my personal expectations. my next phone probably be the nexus for their low price and for the software updates. in summary if people love htc and have fun from they experience it’s all ok and non of the nexus users shoul’d not think that they are much more elitism from other users, cause users have their own use.

  • Charlie Val

    Totally agree. You can even flash an AOSP rom. BAM. Instant Nexus.

    What I don’t agree is that a third party launcher gives you a Nexus experience.

    • http://people.ign.com/spillner82 Spillner82

      I’m not saying a third party launcher gives me a Nexus experience, but it gives me the stock Android UI (homescreen wise) that I like that is on Nexus devices.

  • Diego Metrill Marabeatbox

    I’m a nexus user and i like the one and sense 5. I also like oppo and i could live with Sony as well. But I really have to say that some manufacturers are very slow when it comes to updates. I have the feeling HTC and Oppo are quite fast but most of the manufacturers I hear very bad. Samsung would be too slow for me (please correct me if I’m wrong. I have no great interest in Samsung because i don’t like touchwise)

    • MasterMuffin

      HTC fast and Samsung slow? Yeah, you need correction and you need it quick. It’s the opposite :)

      • Dimitar Dimitrov

        that’s right: I don’t like Samsung, but they do push their updates quicker than HTC.

      • Vardan Nazaretyan

        HTC One has 4.3 The GS4 doesn’t. Who is faster now :)

        • MasterMuffin

          Samsung

          • Vardan Nazaretyan

            HTC

          • MasterMuffin

            Nokia

          • Vardan Nazaretyan

            Google

          • MasterMuffin

            IBM

          • Vardan Nazaretyan

            Ok, I’m out of ideas. :D

          • MasterMuffin

            Winning :)

          • w1cked4u3c

            Win yourself a life. Ding ding ding!!!!

          • MasterMuffin

            you’re trying to troll too hard, it’s ruining it

          • w1cked4u3c

            masterfaggotmuffin: I suck at life thats why I go on phone forums and talk about it.

          • MasterMuffin

            I prefer the use of the word “homosexual” and if you want I can talk to you about my life

          • w1cked4u3c

            Does it look like I care about your preference or life?

          • MasterMuffin

            No, it looks like you’re an egg

          • w1cked4u3c

            This andriod website is cool with a lot of smart people, you’re one of the few that shows that you are not intelligent to keep up a conversation with. You can’t see that it was an expression. Oh well. /endofdiscussion.

          • MasterMuffin

            K bye. We can talk about your problems some other day if you want to

      • w1cked4u3c

        Windows phones are better. Andriods are crapdriods.

        • MasterMuffin

          yes Windows phone for life totally ♥♥♥

    • http://people.ign.com/spillner82 Spillner82

      the One and GS4 are very fast

  • Dany

    Personally I prefer TouchWiz over The stock Nexus… But let me explain
    why: TouchWiz is Stock Android + Extra features, some of them foul, and
    some of them useful. If I have my phone rooted, I can disable what I
    don’t like and keep what I like of touchwiz. Additionally I have SD card
    support and FM radio. In the other hand, If I own a Nexus, the first
    thing that I would do is to install Nova Laucher as I did with my S3.
    Also there are some things that I like of Nexus phones, like the 360
    camera, but I just downloaded the camera software and added it to my S3
    through the recovery menu… So what is the problem of own an S3.

    • w1cked4u3c

      blah blah I personally prefer [insert life's importantance (only have phones to talk about because person is useless to society)]

  • Karlo

    Nexus=Low priced HW(HighEnd) whit unbloated software(AOSP) whit updates directly from Google.

    Many people like me sometimes cant stand pure AOSP because of lack of features.

  • dimnex

    I’m sorry but what’s the point of the article? You’re complaining about a certain attitude and then go on “attacking” the Nexus line to justify that the HTC one is a good phone? I’m a Nexus owner and I don’t need any education on the low points of the Nexus or the high points of the HTC one (or many other androif phones for that matter since I asume we’re all keep an eye out). Also I’m not a member on any HTC One, GS4, or any other phone model community simply because I don’t own one of those. What’s the point joining one unless you own that phone or are interested to buy it? Maybe those nexus elitists are not really elitists but just plain trolls. So go tell them, not us, or better yet ignore them and move on.

    • That_guy!

      Basically it’s a plea to stamp out the fanboyism that makes all of us look bad. Normally we’re not supposed to be prejudiced and what not but it happens anyway. I’m sure you’d hate to be bearing the stigma of one of the Nexus elitist trolls as described simply because you own a Nexus. it’s all about keeping the rotting fruit from taking over the barrel. (no pun intended)

      • MindFever

        …so this is basically it?

      • w1cked4u3c

        idiot

        • That_guy!

          troll

          • w1cked4u3c

            Just because you don’t like others opinions and decisions to like of other choices. You are a pathetic imbecile.

          • That_guy!

            no. just calling out a troll that is a stupid fanboy trying to copy Armando’s user ID, name, and bio while giving satire on those items in order to prove what a pathetic loser you are.

          • w1cked4u3c

            I admire santos carlos-alverez okay?

            I just you are not smart enough to know what sarcastic humor is? So much for 20 years of tech experience you fake loser.

          • That_guy!

            I’m not the one trying to impersonate people because of a lack of a life.

          • w1cked4u3c

            That_guy!: I’m not the blah blah blah blah blah. I’m a pathetic lack of a life responding.

          • That_guy!

            how original..for a 5 year old.

          • w1cked4u3c

            So what are you? Above 30 and make comments like you’re one of those teens on the forums type of insults? haha. You are 20 years in tech whatever world you are in, but you have a mind of a adolescent.

            Talk about original. haha.

          • That_guy!

            and you’re better? all you’re doing is trolling these forums to insult people for the hell of it.

          • w1cked4u3c

            It’s not trolling, it’s stating my own opinion. Please don’t talk like a teenager. I know you’re an adult. If you don’t like it, don’t attack me.

          • That_guy!

            you’re the one attacking people. if you don’t like or cannot handle it being dished back then don’t start it in the first place.

          • w1cked4u3c

            I’m not attacking people, why are you starting to accuse me now? I did nothing wrong other than stating my opinion. Please don’t retaliate, I know you are upset because your pals on this website and other websites are having hard times accepting criticism. I know they love to comment and critique Nokia, Windows, or Apple devices or software, how come I can’t?

          • That_guy!

            I don’t have any pals on here. second of all all you’re doing is leaving comments such as “idiot” or worse on people’s comments and then bashing the person for lashing back at obvious trolling. if you were truly about commenting and critiquing devices and other technology as you claim, we’d not be having this discussion right now.

          • w1cked4u3c

            Why don’t you just stop replying so we can end the discussion instead of beating around the bush stirring more trouble than a kid going door to door playing pranks?

          • That_guy!

            finally a good idea. agreed.

          • w1cked4u3c

            Alright.

    • MindFever

      THIS! +1000

      • w1cked4u3c

        idiot.

    • Richard Yarrell

      People need to face reality android wasn’t made to be created equal there will always be fanboys android expects that.

      Been their done that with NEXUS those days are over.

      Plain and simple NEXUS handsets are drastically boring comically dull and pitifully featureless iphone like day to day experience.

      I enjoy the TRUE software solutions and feature enhancements/implementations offered by the Galaxy Note products.

      The Galaxy Note line means a true all purpose productivity multitasking handset on the highest level since the inception of android.

      The BEST battery life, great camera features and the best all purpose business device ever.

      Nexus means poor battery life, crappy camera, poor storage options and all for what a price break or group discount.

      One thing a person shouldn’t compromise on is technology you should pay for the best every year.

      Nexus line products are not the best nor does it represent android as a platform in the real world.

      Leave out your house and walk down the street you will see your answer as to who represents android.

      All you see is Apple iPhone’s and Samsung Galaxy products. Samsung represents android period.

      • grumpyfuzz

        The best battery life? The Droid Maxx battery is superior. Where is the shut up, Richard comment?

      • squiddy20

        “android expects that” Android is an OS. It doesn’t feel or “expect” anything. Idiot.
        I love how you’re basing your entire viewpoints on all Nexus devices, on the Galaxy Nexus you had with Verizon 2 years ago. After all, you’ve claimed countless times how you’d never touch another Nexus device “with a 10foot pole”. I think things have improved since then. Why don’t you try something *before* you make an opinion on it for once in your life?
        “One thing a person shouldn’t compromise on is technology you should pay for the best every year” …And waste your money on only minor hardware improvements from iteration to iteration. Awesome advice.

      • Kalle56789

        The S-pen, the S-pen, what would we do without it?

  • William Larsson

    I would use a Nexus over a OEM phone anyday because the worst thing there is when certain apps require the latest version of android and you are still stuck on an older version. Having to wait with no idea when that update comes is just a pain.

    • Dimitar Dimitrov

      Well it’s the same as when you have the newest version of android and your favorite app still needs some improvements in order to function properly it. Nevertheless newer is always better :) and I kind of don’t like the HTC and Samsung versions of Android. The reason: HTC has made it beautiful but very heavy (stock android on the same HTC device would run much better); Samsung on the other hand has kept it lightweight, but for me it seems kind of ugly (green just doesn’t match well with blue) but it’s functional. BTW Sony has done a good job (I didn’t expect this). Their “interpretation” of android is light and good looking. //My phone is Sensation XE with 4.2.2 SlimBean ROM despite beeng once the HTC flagship it’s a good example of a phone that almost couldn’t handle the heavy Sense 3.6. I like the Nexus devices, but not having expandable storage is a big trade-off for me in the moment…

  • Rovex

    This is just about idiots who over value OS updates. Most of the time they dont really change much, especially now the Gapps are updated independantly, so why get so excited about them? Id rather have an HTC One on 4.1 than an N4 on 4.4, because the N4 is boring and lacks features I want.

  • Dark Moyan

    I like Nexus but for me I love Xperia Sony UI :)
    I would rather buy Xperia than Nexus but If I had the money I would buy both.
    I don’t need latest OS but I need Optimized OS.

  • Mondy

    Biggest HTC one fanboy.

    • http://people.ign.com/spillner82 Spillner82

      Hardly, just using my personal experience to prove a point.

      • MindFever

        Exactly…your personal experience.

        • http://people.ign.com/spillner82 Spillner82

          Would you like me to use someone else’s experience? How do you think all tech blogs are written?

  • Kevin Thomas

    I owned 2 Nexus devices, Nexus 7 & Nexus S 4G. Enjoyed both immensely, but eventually sold one and traded the other for a Chromebook. I currently have a GS2 Epic Touch 4G under contract until 2014, which functions great, but can get a little buggy because of age.

    There are people that complain about the “Walled In” experience of IOS, but I’ll be picking up an iPhone this Friday from my secondary carrier T-Mobile. Some say I should wait for the Nexus 5, but past experience has left me with low expectations of any future Nexus devices. Seems there’s always “1 off”, which can happen with any line of products, but Nexus devices suffer either from build quality, low camera quality, battery issues, etc…

    I almost caught a Nexus 4 on sale a week ago, but after seeing so many pictures of shattered bodies, I let it go. Today the Galaxy Note 3 is available on T-Mobile with $o down, but just seeing touchwiz and thinking about having to root turned me off.

  • phippski

    the htc one is definitely better hardware wise, best looking phone there is by a long way and from all the leaked shots the nexus 5 that wont change any time soon. As far as what is better to use its all down to the users preference. I own a rooted nexus 4 running carbon rom 4.3 nightlies and nova launcher and I love it. However if I cound afford it, I’d buy the htc tomorrow, android updates really don’t matter that much

  • Dragonscourgex

    I would like to see Google kinda take a little bit more control of Android, and make it an requirement that all OEM devices come with stock Android out of the box. Have all OEM skins act like a custom Launcher. A overlay that is independent of the OS. OEM can push updates to their skins through the Play Store, and all Android phones could get pushed the latest OS version through Google and their carriers.

    • Dimitar Dimitrov

      That’s not that easy since all Android devices have different hardware for example stock Android can’t take advantage of the SG4′s IR sensor the way that TouchWiz does. Besides Android has no saying in that matter it’s opensource that means evrione can use the source for his own goals. But that’s the charm of Android. When you search for devices you get to chose from both software and hardware. I just hope that manufacturers stop restricting users from installing other ROMs and start assisting them instead (like Oppo tries to do).

  • Metallinatus

    lol Really?
    What about the Samsung elitism? And the HTC elitism?
    Every manufacturer have their share of fans that think their phone is the best out there and that “trolls” the other people sharing that thought everywhere….
    Every. Single. Manufacturer.
    It is one of the most normal things in the world, so why complain like only Nexus owners do that?

    • Mantas

      Yeah, there’re people with their likes and dislikes and it didn’t started with phones. It happens with all kinds of things.

    • http://people.ign.com/spillner82 Spillner82

      I already wrote an article about fanboys a while back.

  • Luis

    I get the point but if somebody is particullary frustrated that he or she will get late updates (if ever), they should seriously consider moving to the Nexus Line. I was suffering with my flagship Atrix back in 2010 and made my decision. I will never buy a non Nexus device until they realize I don’t want their crap on my phone that only delays my updates and makes the experience just a mess and pointless. If you do not care about the corny skins and the late updates, I can tell you are much happier than me because you have a lot more choices. For me, it does not work and the Google edition phones are a good step in the right direction but not exactly what I want to be honest. Sure the Nexus line has its limitations but is something I can live with what is not the case of the other phone brands around.

    Keep the good work!

  • Hussain

    Americans and build quality

  • Jeremy Decker

    So hypocritical!! You guys say you hate fanboyism but promote it all the time with your Apple hate articles. Not to mention Armando is the biggest android fanboy on youtube, this website is direct evidence. When i see these articles from you guys i can help but laugh and shake my head. Some of the biggest Elitist android bloggers are now complaining about “nexus fanboys” LOL. The problem stems from android fanboys aka android elitism not nexus fanboys. It goes to show if you dont praise anything Google ever made your hated on relentlessly. Even on Armando’s video about “10 things i hate about android” he got a ton of hate, his fellow android fans turning on him the second he questioned android. To sum it all up its a ANDROID ELITISM problem not a branch of that. All you guys do is add to the flame wars and act surprised when you get hate for going against google.

    • http://www.thedroideffect.com/ Damir Franc

      agreed

  • Mantas

    Sorry, you’re cleary one of those fanboys you’re bashing about, the difference is you love HTC One. ’nuff said.

    • http://people.ign.com/spillner82 Spillner82

      I only compared the Nexus experience to what I am currently using now. I could have easily compared it to the GS4 and my experience would have been the same. Stock Android is rather bland when compared to skinned versions.

      • Mantas

        Actually I think opposite way, I didn’t thought about custom roms since I’ve bought my precious 2013 nexus 7, so I’m more for stability and lite’ness of android. I’m using CM10.1 on my Samsung Galaxy S+ though, because it’s stuck on 2.3.6. Hungry for Nexus 5, because I like stock android.

  • TheBeeNet

    After thinking about it, is fanboy elitism of a specific brand really abnormal? Everybody has their favorite candy stick they like and are willing to defend. I personally like Samsumg devices over most Android devices but that’s just me. I naturally defend the Android brand because it is the OS of choice. I personally do not see the difference between liking a Nexus device over Samsung or a HTC over Motorola X as opposed to having a favorite football, basketball, or hockey team. Or the choice of trucks Dodge, Chevy, or Ford. There is a natural nature within man to like something and defend the reasoning for the like or choice. In every walk of life this happens, Politics, East Coast as opposed to West Coast, Beer products, sports, Restaurants, who makes the best French fries, etc.
    I believe the bad part is elitism to the form of deification is what is wrong.

  • MindFever

    My god…the articles on this site lately…need I say more?
    Whining and pointless diatribes…the “elitism” of your editorials is the REAL danger here (for your fanbase numbers ). Oh the irony…

    • Someone on the internet

      If you hated the article on this site so much then why bother reading it in the first place then coming to complain.

      • TechDevil

        You must be new to the Internet. You see, when people don’t like something, they tell people they don’t like it. If you don’t like that he didn’t like it, then you don’t need to tell him to get out, you just need to get out yourself. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether you like it or not, but you don’t have to sound like a smart-ass when your entire comment is based on a ridicolous matter. I respect him for taking the time to read and give out his opinion. I don’t respect you at all because you can’t handle a negative comment? Get over yourself. All you had to do was ignore his comment and proceed to one you didn’t like, but you absolutely had to comment on his comment, didn’t you? Same concept.

      • w1cked4u3c

        +9000+

    • http://www.thedroideffect.com/ Damir Franc

      I wrote an follow up article on this since I’m not a fan of the whole thing that’s lately going on myself. Maybe this will calm down things a bit or maybe do the opposite, we’ll see. Should be up soon

  • That_guy!

    Overall moral of the story: being an elitist d-bag fanboy, regardless of Device and mobile OS is bad.

  • w1cked4u3c

    tl;dr

    faggots love phones with software x.x.xx
    faggots compare phones that they treasure their life with
    faggots complain about support and custom firmware releasing

    All idiots.

  • http://people.ign.com/spillner82 Spillner82

    Let me answer some of the criticisms of this article. For one, calling me an HTC fanboy is not even close to what I am. I wrote in an article a while back that a fanboy is one who will blindly defend a product against all criticism. I have my problems with HTC to be sure , there is no perfect device (see my review of the One). The point of comparing the HTC One to Nexus phones was to point out the advantages that non-nexus devices have. Out of the 5 Android devices I have owned, only 2 were not running stock Android, my D3 and my One (the D3 was terrible btw).

    Why am I complaining about only Nexus fanboyism? Because no one else has dared to bring it up. Fanboyism between Android and iOS, Apple and Samsung, HTC and everyone else. There are articles about all of those. But when it comes down to Nexus fanboys there are none.

    I wrote this article because every time a tech site writes an update on a non-nexus device getting an OS update, the Nexus fanboys come out to rub our faces in the fact they already have it. This is especially true when a newer version of Android comes out. Why does someone who doesn’t own a GS4 or HTC One have to immediately enter the message boards and start blasting non-Nexus devices? Before writing this article I could not find one Nexus article that was flooded with Samsung or HTC fanboys bashing their phones.

    I also want to reiterate that this article is not reflective of all Nexus owners, far from it. I know quite a bit of Nexus owner and none of them act this way. I am an Android enthusiast, I love Android and Google, but I will not back down from criticizing them or any small group of fanboys when it is called for. The fanboy is the biggest threat to innovation there is because it convinces manufactureres that they don’t have to try as hard for your business.

  • Alexander Garcia

    Thank you Brian! I’ve been waiting so long for a tech blogger to finally put out an article like this. Your thoughts are much appreciated. Cheers. =)

  • Magnus Skaanevik

    Nexusmasterrace

  • Martin Eriksen

    vanilla android is boring anyways, This is nothing but my personal opinion and should be treated as such. This does in no way represent anyone else’s opinion than mine.